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This was a beautifully written opening to the series. The line about the church making 'a quiet decision that God never agreed to' is going to sit with me for a while. You're right that dreams get dismissed too quickly in a lot of modern discipleship, and your walk through Genesis, Matthew, and Joel 2:28 is a fair and honest reading. Joseph's dreams shaping the salvation of Israel, the Magi being warned in a dream, Pentecost itself being tied to dreams and visions. That's not a stretch, that's just Scripture. I'm grateful for the reminder that 'staying in the verifiable' shouldn't mean shrinking what God is allowed to use to speak.

The one place I'd love to think out loud with you is the move toward Jung himself. I don't doubt Jung was onto something true about the modern West losing touch with symbol and the inner life. We're losing lots of things in the West. But Jung's own framework comes with its own theology of the self, where meaning is generated from within the psyche rather than received from a personal God who speaks to us from outside ourselves. That's a meaningfully different starting point than Joseph or Daniel had. It doesn't mean nothing Jung observed is useful — but I think it's worth being explicit with readers about where the borrowed framework and the biblical one might quietly pull in different directions, especially since this series is inviting people to actually practice something, not just think about it.

None of that is a knock on the project. Recovering dreams as a legitimate category of spiritual experience is worth doing, and you're clearly doing the work of taking both Scripture and the history of ideas seriously. I'll be reading along. Just hoping the series holds the biblical text as the plumb line the Jungian material gets measured against, rather than the other way around.

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Aaron I really appreciate this meaningful comment on the article. As you follow me, you'll see that I make Jung bow to Scripture, never the other way around. I'm a theologian first, but I've found Jung to be extremely helpful in addressing the soul. I'm particularly interested in how Jung is able to get at the patterns beneath our sin and unravel them. I see so many Christians struggle with sin because they're trying to approach it from behavior management rather than from the patterns of the soul that Jung described.

Regarding Jung's "theology of the self" he would disagree, however I understand why you might say that. Jung explicitly delineated his work as psychology, and not theology, ad nauseum. Yes, plenty of people have developed a "theology" around his ideas but he would not defend them as theology. However, your point as to where "messages" are coming from (the Self or God Himself) does deserve a careful reflection and article on its own. I'll start brainstorming it today 😃. Thank you again for this beautiful and helpful comment.

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