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The Dreaming Church: A History We Were Never Taught
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The Dreaming Church: A History We Were Never Taught

Season 2, Episode 12: Get more podcasts at where ever you listen with The Christian Jung

Before you decide whether God still speaks through dreams, consider what the church believed for the first fifteen hundred years of its existence. Not the fringe. The theologians, the martyrs, the desert fathers, the bishops who gave us the creeds, the canon, and the contemplative tradition that shaped Christian spirituality to this day. None of them thought God had stopped speaking in the night. The question was never whether. It was how to listen well.

In Week 1B of The Christian Jung’s Dreams Arc, Angela Meer traces the history of the dreaming church: Tertullian’s three categories of dreams (divine, demonic, natural), Perpetua’s prophetic dreams in prison and the church’s preservation of her account for public worship, the desert fathers’ nepsis and the sophisticated discernment tradition they developed, Augustine’s mother Monica and the dream that sustained her prayer for seventeen years, Jerome redirected by a dream serious enough to leave bruises, Hildegard of Bingen and Thomas Aquinas engaging visions and dreams as matters of serious theological attention.

The episode culminates with Ignatius of Loyola and the surprise reveal: Carl Jung read the Spiritual Exercises. In his 1937 Terry Lectures at Yale, he recognized that Ignatius’s imaginative contemplation -- entering a Gospel scene with all five senses, attending to the movements of consolation and desolation -- was structurally identical to what he was developing as active imagination. The church had been doing it for five centuries. Jung gave it a new name.

This episode covers:

-- Tertullian’s De Anima and the theology of dream discernment

-- Perpetua of Carthage: dreaming in prison, preserved in worship

-- The desert fathers’ nepsis and the tradition of interior discernment

-- Monica, Augustine, and the dream that held for seventeen years

-- Jerome: flogged in a dream, redirected in his scholarly life

-- Ignatius of Loyola and the Spiritual Exercises

-- Jung’s recognition of Ignatius: active imagination and the five-century precedent

-- How we lost this -- and how we recover it

Scripture covered: Acts 2:17, Joel 2:28, Numbers 12:6, Hebrews 1:1-2

Find the full article and Inner Room practice guide on Substack: The Christian Jung. Find more at angelameer.com.

Heal Deeply. Walk Holy.

Show Notes

Scripture: Acts 2:17 | Joel 2:28 | Numbers 12:6 | Hebrews 1:1-2

Key figures: Tertullian (c. 155-240) | Perpetua of Carthage (c. 181-203) | Desert Fathers/Apophthegmata Patrum (3rd-5th c.) | Augustine of Hippo (354-430) | Jerome (c. 347-420) | Hildegard of Bingen (1098-1179) | Thomas Aquinas (1225-1274) | Ignatius of Loyola (1491-1556) | Carl Jung (1875-1961)

Key terms:

Nepsis: the Desert Fathers’ practice of watchful attentiveness to interior movement, including what comes in the night; the posture of receptive discernment

Consolation/Desolation: Ignatius of Loyola’s categories for distinguishing genuine divine interior movement (consolation -- drawing toward God, love, peace, holy desire) from counterfeit (desolation -- drawing away, toward anxiety, self-protection, diminishment)

Application of the Senses: Ignatius’s practice of entering a Gospel scene or sacred image with all five senses and attending to what arises in the interior life

Active imagination: Jung’s term for the same practice -- deliberate, receptive engagement with an interior image, allowing it to develop without forcing a predetermined outcome

Cessationism: the 19th-century theological position that certain gifts of the Spirit ceased with the apostolic age; not the patristic, medieval, or consistently Reformation position

Links: Free article | Inner Room | angelameer.com | Awaken Holy Wonder

Keywords

Christian dream history, early church dreams, Perpetua dreams, Ignatius Loyola active imagination, Jung Spiritual Exercises, desert fathers dreams, Tertullian dreams, Monica Augustine dream, Christian contemplative tradition dreams, Angela Meer

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